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EZ and Zack (he's the same as Cloud)
By Dan GC (Guardian Cloud)
for the Arcade (it's the same for the PSX) version of Ehrgeiz
Last updated: 05/23/99 08:57 AM PT
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Ehrgeiz was...
Created by: Dream Factory
Licensed by: Squaresoft
Published by: Namco
Released: Late March 1998 in America
If you can help me with anything: moves, techniques, etc., or if you
just have questions, comments, etc., E-mail them to
One more thing, don't E-mail with questions that are already in the FAQ
section or in the FAQ, otherwise, I'll discard them or tell you to
check the FAQ. Well, actually, I won't, I just put it there so I don't
get annoying mail, heh.
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Table of Contents
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1. Updates
2. What is Ehrgeiz, anyway? (General Details about Ehrgeiz)
3. Legend
4. Move List
1. Basic Attacks
2. Executed Attacks
3. Executed Running Attacks
4. Just Frame Attacks
5. Running Against Wall
6. Executed Throws
7. Special Attacks
8. Launchers
9. Combos
10. Special Combos
11. Taunts
5. Strategy, Hints, Tips, and Comparisons/Contrastings
6. Move Analysis
7. Cloud VS. CPU & Person Guide
8. Plot/Storyline
9. Cloud Info
- Cloud Character Profile
- More Cloud Info
10. Basics (Basic Moves available to most characters)
11. Secrets
12. Frequently Asked Questions
13. After Getting Ehrgeiz... (with any character)
14. Remarks I've received for beating the CPU or people with Cloud
15. My Best Records
16. Special Thanks
17. Author Information
- What I'd like (or not like) in Ehrgeiz 2
Copyright Disclaimer:
Unpublished Work Copyright (c) 1998, 1999 Dan GC
This FAQ is for private and personal use only. If reproduced, it must
be my electronic means, and if placed on a Web Page or Site, may be
altered as long as this Disclaimer and the above Copyright Notice
fully appears. This FAQ is not to be used for profitable/promotional
purposes; this includes being used by publishers of magazines, guides,
books, etc. or being incorporated into magazines, etc. in ANY way
without FULL AUTHORIZATION from myself and any cohorts I may have.
This FAQ was created and is owned by me, Dan GC
Any Copyrights and Trademarks not specifically mentioned in this FAQ are
acknowledged. Always give credit where it is due.
Ehrgeiz, Squaresoft, and Dream Factory are Registered Trademarks and
Copyright (c) to Square Co., Ltd. Any other things are Copyright to
their rightful owners.
Alright, writers of EGM, GamePro, other Game Mags, and plaigiarizers,
you plagiarize, many people know that, you can be sued. If I find out
ANYTHING from any of my FAQs in a Game Magazine or in another FAQ w/o
my permission, I'm suing. It clearly states not to copy anything without
my FULL AUTHORIZATION and PERMISSION unless put on a non-profitable/
non-promotional Web Page with the above Copyright Disclaimer.
This FAQ can be found at:
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GameFAQs www.gamefaqs.com
Dan GC's Ehrgeiz Home Page i.am/dan_gc
Available later in the future
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Part 1: Updates
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Version 2.1:
Changed "Special Thanks" section
Version 2.05:
This probably is the final version. Anyway, I changed some Basics,
Author Information, FAQ, etc.
Version 2.0:
Could this be it? The "final" version!? Probably... Anyway, fixed the
"Counter" part on the Executed Attack "Windmill," another attempt at
grammar and layout corrections, etc.; also changed a bit of the Battle
Mechanics section, and I even added 10 more combos; added what combos
work on what characters (weight type) in the MOVE ANALYSIS section; also
fixed many "unofficial" things
Version 1.9:
Changed some stuff, not really noticeable unless you really look
Version 1.8:
FINAL Version!? Possibly. I'm not sure, but it's highly possible.
Anyway, what was updated was the Comparisons part in the Strategy
section.
Version 1.7:
Listed the Damage for the attacks (in the Move Analysis section), also
added mini-battle mechanics section in the Basics section (now you'll
know how the battle mechanics of this game works, kind of ^_^'). The
Battle Mechanics is the second to last thing in the Basics section. I
also added one more move in the Move List
Version 1.6:
Added one more move, added some more in the "One More Thing" in the
Basics section, added three questions in the "FAQ" section
Version 1.5:
Put some more strategy, and tried to correct any typos/errors, etc.
Version 1.4:
I actually put some detailed and pretty useful strategy and tips in
the Strategy section. Changed some Ratings in the Move Analysis,
partially changed some of the Basics in the section, but I've forgotten
what I've changed ^_^' , and added one thing in the Legend section, and
that thing partially modifies the attacks.
Version 1.34:
Put some more Strategy in that section, took out some unnecessary
moves, corrected more mistakes, etc. Partially modified Character
Profile.
Version 1.32:
Changed some of the Hit ratings, part of the Strategy section, some
moves, and the usual. Also changed the Version numbers, I reassorted it
into orderly numbers.
Version 1.3:
Changed a bit of the strategy section, changed the ratings, re-
arranged most of the FAQ, etc. Everything is in order of importance. The
most important stuff are Parts 2-5, then things get less and less
important after Part 5.
Version 1.27:
Changed some ratings, reworded some things, and some other little
stuff like some rewording of the strategy section
Version 1.25:
Wow, I added a couple more moves, added three more combos, added
little strategy, and some other stuff, eh. Something next that is the
closest thing to a diary:
Expect stuff in my FAQ to be in Mike's FAQ(s)...he is the only person
I gave permission to freely use ANYTHING from my FAQ(s) without even
asking me...only one person asked to use my FAQ, which was Aaron
McKeever , any other people, only one, took it from
me without even thanking me or asking...I should've told CJayC about it
so the FAQ could've been taken down, but that FAQ was useful, so I
didn't. Plagiarism sucks!
Version 1.22:
Organized some stuff a little more and added "Just Frame Attacks" in
the Basic Stuff section
Version 1.2: I stayed up late last night and found some more
interesting stuff. When I tried to sleep, I was thinking of what to put
in this FAQ. Okay, what's new is...I added 25 or so more combos, changed
Cloud's self-made profile, and umm...changed some other stuff. Because
of one of Mike's combos (H+S, H, H, #G+H, H, #H, L, *H), I found out
many more crazy combos, now there's 45! I also moved the former Combo
21 to Special Combo 3.
Version 1.19:
Mike Allen completely corrected me on the Character Weight Classes, I
also changed five Hit levels. And...drum roll please ...
added seven (that's 7!) MORE COMBOS of my own! And kudos to Mike Allen
for telling me two MORE combos (20 and 21)!
song playing
Version 1.17:
Corrected the "Character Weight Classes" in the Basic Stuff section
Version 1.15:
Umm...corrected some stuff, reworded text, tried to correct as many
things as possible.
Version 1.1:
Corrected some Basic Attacks, altered one Combo, fixed some Hit Levels
for some attacks, added more complicated Combos, and other stuff.
Version 1.0:
Changed a lot of stuff, his moves, his combos, the basic moves
section, the strategy section, the best stuff section, added the "How do
you do a a Just Frame attack?" and a new Secret in the "Secrets"
section...it's the newly remodeled FAQ!
Version 0.9:
Made some more changes to moves, added various things
Version 0.8:
Tried to make some changes
Version 0.7:
Changed the format of the document, added some stuff, changed names of
moves, and some other stuff.
Version 0.6:
Was going to be the Final Version with everything there is to know
about Cloud in Ehrgeiz; well, almost everything. Everything correct,
except for a little bit of typos and stuff. Won't include how to make
Cloud turn blue as if he were trying to do a Magic Spell and anymore
Custom-Made Combos and Special Attacks. Only thing new is Special
Weapons (Objects) since the last update (10/22/98 8:43 PM PT). This last
update is 10/23 (when enpingy@yahoo.com E-mailed me and told me some
stuff)
Version 0.57:
Edited the whole thing and moved stuff around. How to make Cloud turn
blue as if he were trying to do a magic spell in FF7 and any Custom-Made
Combos are the only things missing. Added Blade Catch.
Version 0.55:
Everything except for custom-made combos and how to do the Two-Hand
Grab, added a Remarks section.
Version 0.5:
Should have everything including unknown moves, unanswered questions,
etc.
Version 0.45:
Added more stuff and fixed typos, errors, throws, and more. Stuff
still needs to be confirmed though.
Version 0.4:
Added more stuff and answered some questions, added more stuff, but I
still need questions answered.
Version 0.3:
Added storyline of Ehrgeiz (finally! ^_^' ) and more
Version 0.2:
Changed format of document
Version 0.1:
First edition
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Part 2: What is Ehrgeiz, anyway? (General Details about Ehrgeiz)
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If Tobal No. 1 is the only Dream Factory fighting game you've ever
played, you're missing a lot; the sequel, Tobal No. 2 (released only in
Japan) is considered in some circles to be the finest fighting game on
the PlayStation (PSX). Dream Factory produced the first(?) completely
true 3-D fighting game in arcade history: Ehrgeiz allows complete three-
dimensional movement over a series of plains, high-rises, and other
areas. The terrain also includes special objects - knives, dynamites,
boxes, and other various items - that can be used to augment your
offensive and defensive strategies. The game's four-button layout
includes a "Guard" button as well as "High" Attack, "Low" Attack, and
"Special" Attack buttons. The combo system is similar to that of Tobal
2; calculated, timed attacks with not much room for error. Unlike the
gameplay of Tekken (Tekken's engine isn't good: you only block and
attack in that game) - which rewards your opponents greatly when you
make a simple mistake - Ehrgeiz only rewards a player when skills and
strategy are used. For example, once a player inputs a special move, you
can follow that up with a specific move(s) that juggles the opponent for
multiple hits. Mastering the basic techniques will take some time to
comprehend. Of course, the one feature that may put Ehrgeiz over the
top - particularly Square fans - is the fact that some of the most
popular characters from Final Fantasy VII are hidden in the game as
secret bosses and selectable fighters! The game would've been great
without this, but Square and Namco had to put it in to get some
publicity and attraction. Of course, Cloud is okay, but Tifa is much
better. There are also other FFVII characters in this game in the PSX
version, but basically, they're just clones of other characters with
some differences. The only "original" characters are the original eight,
and Cloud, Tifa, and Django. The characters added in the PSX version
are based upon those characters (except for Koji, to an extent, and
Clair; they're also original) with sometimes noticable differences. No
characters in Ehrgeiz are based upon Django. But this game is not, I
repeat, is not a "Final Fantasy Fighter!" If I ever hear anyone say
that, and if they're not kidding or much bigger (and stronger) than me,
I'll wail on them! Don't say those three very words in my presence.
"Ehrgeiz" is a German word that means "ambition." The pronunciation
of Ehrgeiz is "air-gaits" and in terms of some sort of a dictionary, it
would be "e:r gaits". This is a type of 3-D fighting game that I haven't
ever experienced. The Learning Curve to playing this game is only a few
days, although to master a specific character takes much longer. After
a week or two, you could learn most of the basics and learn how to do
them easily. Some kind of general knowledge and strategy is needed to
get on the Hi-Score List (and play well against true players). I decided
to type all of the things I know about the "Guardian" Cloud and how to
beat some opponents with him so people can read it if they choose to do
so (and many people already have done so).
Attribution goes to Jason E. Wilson
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Part 3: Legend
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Controls:
UL U UR Up-Left Up Up-Right
\ | /
L -- N -- R Left Neutral Right
/ | \
DL D DR Down-Left Down Down-Right
Arcade Button Setup:
P1/P2 Start
L H S Low High Special
G Guard
*: Just Frame Point
QCF: Quarter Circle Forward: Down, Down-Right, Right
QCB: Quarter Circle Back: Down, Down-Left, Left
/: Or
+: simultaneously
DB: Deathblow (Jumping Slash)
FC: Fully Crouched
( ): Hold (exp. (G), hold G)
^: Unofficial Name
360: 360 degree spin
%: Not Counterable (if there isn't a % or &, then it is Counterable)
&: Counterable on a certain condition, which is, if the attack is done
when the character doing the attack is on the ground, but if done
when all the way in the air, it is not Counterable
SF: Soldier Feint Left or Right
counter hit: a hit to your opponent while they are doing an action
Start (in move list): Start button (in Arcade); Select button (PSX)
(rH): you can do the rising H after the last attack this is listed in
(rA): you can do this attack when rolling (referring to Get-Up attacks)
(wA): you can do this attack while walking (only will list for basic
attack; i.e. the move with the first command for other moves will
only have a (wA)
Original Damage: the damage for an attack not done in a combo or used as
a counter hit
Hit Level:
H: High
M: Middle
L: Low
U: Unblockable
UH: Unblockable High
UM: Unblockable Middle
UL: Unblockable Low
|: whatever is past "|" is the Hit Level (except Rating)
|: (the one below the Hit Level one) whatever is past "|" is the
Original Damage for that/those attack(s)
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Part 4: Movelist
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Name Input Hit Level(s)
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Basic Attacks:
Soldier Jab H H
Soldier High Low (rH) H, L H, L
Soldier Chain H, H, L H, H, L
Shinra Chain Disrupt H, H, H, H H, H, M, M
Shinra Chain KxK (Kicks) H, L, L, H H, L, L, H
Soldier Knee% H+L H
Soldier Elbow H+L+S M
Disrupt Shot H+L+S, H M, M
Soldier Hook H+S M
Shinra Chain Wheel H+S, H, H M, M, M
Shinra Genesis Chain H+S, H, L M, M, L
Soldier Low Kick (rH) L L
Soldier Double Low L, L L, L
Soldier Original L, L, H L, L, H
Shinra Needle L+S L
Soldier High Kick (wA) G+H H
Soldier Double High Kick^ G+H, H H, H
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Executed Attacks:
Soldier Feint Right QCF+H M
Soldier Feint Left QCB+H M
Soldier Front Kick^ rising H M
Moonsault% H+L (above opponent) UM
Low Spin Kick (wA) FC, L/G+L L
Mako Punch Step, then L, H M
Zack's Kick (rA) H (when getting up) M
Kaiten Ashibarai^ (rA) L (as above) L
Head Spring% (near head) H+L (as above) M
Rotational Kick (near feet) H+L (as above) L
Soldier Flip^% G+L+S M
Soldier Axe Kick^% G+H+S M
Jumping Turn (Side) Kick^& Jump, H M
Landing Shinra Needle^ Jump, almost land, H L
Landing Low Spin Kick^ Jump, L L
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Executed Running Attacks:
Escape Back Kick% Tap G, H M
Air Slash% H H
Soldier Needle G+H M
Slide Buster L L
Soldier Tackle% H+L M
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Just Frame (*=Just Frame point):
Shinra Front L, *H L, M
Cold Chain H, L, *H H, L, M
Zack's Chain H, H, L, *H, H H, H, L, M, M
Shinra Chain Alpha H+S, H, L, *H, H M, M, L, M, M
Shinra Chain Beta G+H, H, *H H, H, M
Zack's Shot FC, L/G+L, *H, H L, M, M
Zack's Landing Shot^ Jump, L, *H, H L, M, M
Cross-Slash (Limit Level 1B) H+L, H, H, *H UM, UM, UM
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Running Against Wall:
Soldier Elbow Drop^% H UM
Triangle Slide Buster^% L UL
Soldier Flip 2^% H+L M
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Executed Throws:
Crescent Suplex% (front) G+H+L Throw
Crescent Dive% (front) G+H+L, hold L Throw Variation
Waist Suplex% (left side) G+H+L Throw
Neck Fall% (right side) G+H+L Throw
Manhattan Suplex% (behind) G+H+L Throw
Soldier Grasp (front) G+H+L , then: Grasp
- H, H, H: Face Punch x3, Stun (can dizzy)
- L, L, L: Hold Kick x3, Stun (can dizzy)
- Rope Throw: Push opponent in direction being held
Soldier Takedown^% Running, G+H+L, then: U Tackle
- H/L repeatedly (max. 3 hits) then a Leg Toss;
release all buttons, Leg Toss; hold H or L,
Rolling Leg Toss
Omnislash (front) 360+G+H+L Special Throw
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Special Attacks:
Sword Stance S (Draws Sword) N/A
Sheath Sword^ G N/A
Deathblow^ Jump, S UM
Braver (Limit Level 1A) H+L, G+H UM
Cross-Slash (Limit Level 1B) (see Just Frame Attacks)
Climhazzard (Limit Level 2B) G+H, H (moving) UM, UM
Meteorain% (Limit Level 3A) S (3 seconds) N/A x3
Omnislash (Limit Level 4) (see Executed Throws)
Shinra Single Slash H UM
Buster Sword Chain H, H, H UM, UM, UM
Shinra Low Slash L UL
Skull Break L, L, L UL, UL, UL
Sephiroth Combo Incomplete H+L, H, H, H UM, UM, UM
Rune Blade Combo H+L, L, L, L UL, UL, UL
Butterfly Edge G+H, H, H UM, UM, UM
Clim Slash G+H (moving) UM
Clim Mirage% G+H, L (moving) UL
Shinra Beta Slash S (Special Gauge empty) UM
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Launchers:
The following are just launchers which launch your opponent high
enough in order for you to juggle them, not attacks that just launch
your opponent. Also, they are launchers that give you enough time to
juggle your opponent so they have a pretty quick recovery time.
Note: These are actually just regular attacks somewhere in the Move
List, but these deserve to stand out somewhat
Note 2: The launchers are ordered from worst to best
Soldier Knee% H+L H
Shinra Chain Wheel H+S, H, H M, M, M
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Combos:
I'll list many juggles, not all of the possible ones, but many of
them and some tricks. Tricks are used to hit your opponent at one time
or another, but if they are really good and block all of the attacks or
Counter, then...I have nothing to say. You can also mix-up the Tricks
to hit your opponent.
Note: All of these combos must be done when very close to the opponent
Note 2: All combos should be used as a counter hit, which launches the
opponent high in the air
Note 3: These combos can end with "G+L+S," "L+S," "run+L," or even
Soldier Feint Left/Right... so, I shall not list any of those
in the combos
Note 4: There are different combos to be used against different types
of characters: light, medium, and heavyweight characters; see
the list to see who is light, medium, or heavyweight; try the
combos yourself to see who it works on
Note 5: Some combos require the wall, others do not require it
Note 6: The "Tricks" are used to trick your opponent, similar to a
mix-up, that's what they can be used as, Mix-ups
Note 7: Combos 56-58 are not juggling combos
Note 8: Combos 29-55 are for EXTREMISTS only! Of course, if you have
the right setup and all that stuff, you'll be just fine
I've tested every combo on every type of weight, and I've figured out
which combos can be done on which weight classes. And most of these
combos do have to be used as a counter hit. Check the MOVE ANALYSIS
section to find out what combos work against what characters. Combos
9 and 15 usually do not work on heavyweight characters, pity... ¦/
The beginning of the combo is the launcher, after the launcher is the
juggling.
Impatience^ Direction+Start
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Part 5: Strategy, Hints, Tips, and Comparisons/Contrastings
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**Note:
If you'd like to see strategies for other characters, see Mike Allen's
Ehrgeiz Expert FAQ.
:etoN**
Cloud is not the best fighter in Ehrgeiz, but he can be used in
such a way that would make him seem an above average character. Cloud
doesn't have the most moves in the game, but has quite a lot (70+).
ANYONE can match Cloud; he has a slow sword, so you should rarely use
it, only when your opponent turns their back (their body appears to be
blue), they can't Blade Catch or Counter, so do some damaging combo
such as Cross-Slash. Otherwise, you'll have to resort to his mix-ups and
counter hit juggles. Some of his best mix-ups are: LL; LH; L*H; LLH and
similar attacks. Those would probably only work against some human
opponents because the CPU blocks most attacks and most humans know when
and how to block everything. Blocking is too easy. Okay, when your
opponent is physically attacking you with high or middle level attacks
and you're facing your opponent, don't push or hold anything, unless
you're going to do a Counter. If your opponent attacks low, hold G. So,
since you can see most attack coming at you, just do the appropriate
attack. If your opponent is only going to do a high attack, then you can
hold G to crouch and attack while crouching.
When an opponent attacks you and it is successful, try blocking the
rest of the attacks or Countering it, it depends on what attack(s) is
done. If an opponent jumps at you and is about done through the jump,
try running under the opponent and attack them as they are in the air
or wait for them to land then attack them.
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Time for some human strategy for Cloud:
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Okay, Cloud is a difficult person to use. But he has many skills, yet
too many weaknesses. I guess it's about two strengths for every three
weaknesses, or something similar to that. Do mix-ups like LL, LH, L*H,
LLH, HLLH, HHL, and other stuff like that. You should use the Escape
Back Kick (when running, Tap G, H), since it is quick, can't be
Countered, and Cloud is out of range of the opponent after the attack
is done. Use it when you are going to run towards your opponent to
attack them. Or use it when you are pretty close to your opponent to
dodge an attack (the Tap G part is the Fade-Away Dodge and you can push
H anytime during the dodge) then push H when your are close to hit your
opponent. If your opponent makes a mistake or is open for a while, you
can do Zack's Shot (G+L, *H, H). It's quick, it's one of his best, if
not his best, Just Frame attack. You can wiff the G+L if you think your
opponent will block it. Or if your opponent is busy doing an attack and
misses you, do Zack's Landing Shot (Jump, L, *H, H) to attack your
opponent from the other side. Do juggles to take damage off of your
opponents, but you should only use some of them as counter hits. After
you knock down an opponent, you can step back, take out his sword, and
wait for the opponent to turn their back. That's your signal to do
Cross-Slash, so do it to take off a huge chunk of their power, but if
your opponent is going to attack you, push G to put his sword away and
either... A) Counter B) Run C) Attack or D) Jump and attack.
I've decided not to put my very personal strategy for Cloud, people
could read it and know my strategy, so they could counter it easily and
I'll get lots of damage. But I'll tell you what I don't do...I don't use
his sword unless I'm really desperate, spaz, or injure the human
opponent. My basic strategy with Cloud is:
Always be careful:
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Whenever using Cloud, watch out for your opponents' attacks. If you
know you won't be able to block a certain attack that can be Countered,
then Counter it. Always Blade Catch sword attacks to cause very little
damage to your opponent, just to stop your opponent from attacking.
Attack an opponent who misses you with a slow (or fast) attack that has
some lag in between or after the attack. You can also do the Moonsault
(when on higher elevation, H+L) and when your opponent jumps up to hit
you, push H+L to attack them as they're jumping.
Buster Sword:
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I tell you what, never use his sword unless you want to be humuliated,
you are a major "scrub," or you are fighting against a beginner who
knows little to nothing whom purposely challenged you and you just
happen to be using Cloud. But if you had to use the sword, always use
Cross-Slash, Skull Break or Rune Blade Combo when your opponent's back
is turned. You can even try Clim Mirage (moving, G+H, L) just to fake
out your opponent ONCE, since they just might think you are going to do
a different attack, but in the case of most players, they'll attack you
right there while you are doing that slow start-up attack.
Speed:
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NEVER use slow recovery attacks, they leave you open, and you are
bound to lose a lot of power. IF you do use one of those attacks, it
better be a very quick start-up attack that knocks your opponent back
if they block, or don't, far away so you can't be countered easily.
The Running G+H is an example, if your opponent blocks it and is not in
a corner: they'll be knocked pretty far away so you have a chance to
block; if they don't block: they'll be knocked down. Whenever you block
an attack, or if your opponent misses you with an attack, counter it as
quickly as possible. Use the HHHH attack, it takes about 20% on default
settings, is quick, and your opponent can't block if one of the hits
are executed on the opponent, the only thing they can do is Counter.
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Cloud is a character not for beginners. It is for professionals or
intermediate players looking to become professionals. Cloud isn't the
hardest character to master, but it isn't very easy. You can check the
Expert FAQ in the Character Rankings section for character rankings.
If you want to do some difficult and/or dangerous combo, you should
dizzy your opponent first. Try the Throw from the front of your opponent
and push HHH or LLL. You can also mix-up the HHH and LLL together to hit
different parts of the opponent's body, but it won't dizzy the opponent,
usually. It seems HHH has a more success rate of dizzying your opponent,
though, than LLL. To dizzy your opponent, you just have to hit them with
the same thing three times in a certain period of time. You can grab the
opponent and push H once, then grab again and push H twice, then your
opponent will be dizzy. Anyway, you can do that combo you want to do
after your opponent is dizzy.
Here's a little odd cruel trick: okay, if you or your opponent breaks
a box, and there is a Special Weapon, which there will most likely be in
anyway, you can pick it up (just by running into it), then when your
opponent is chasing your and/or is going to attack you, you can push G
to drop the Weapon and if your opponent accidentally runs into it, and
picks it up, your opponent will be temporarily busy picking it up, so
you'll have some time to do a damaging combo...heh heh heh :) .
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Juggling:
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As you can see in the Combos section, currently, there are 55 juggles
and three regular combos in there. Cloud has some good juggling, but
some of them are better when used as counter hits because if it's a
launcher, they'll be knocked into the air much higher. Juggles are
usually best when you're very close to your opponent and away from a
wall and you're keeping them there, but some juggles require the wall.
The juggles don't work very well against heavyweighters. Heavyweighters
fall down too quickly, but some juggles work better on them than other
characters - juggles usually work well against medium and lightweight
characters. You should try the Soldier Knee (H+L), then do some
juggling. But what's even better is the Shinra Chain Wheel (H+S, H, H),
it launches them even higher. Then, you can hit them with the knee
(or G+H, H), then juggle them for even more hits. There are many
different things you can do. With the juggling, you can deal your
opponent some easy damage, if you can actually do it.
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Beating the CPU is easy, just knock them down with a fast recovery
attack, then step back a little and keep doing the Skull Break. You may
have to move back a lot, if you do, then do the Rune Blade Combo, which
is exactly the same thing as Skull Break, except you rush in with H+L.
That's all it is to it. Call it...the "Death Trap." If the CPU opponent
is just wasting time and standing there, then knock it down and start
doing the Skull Break.
Cloud is somewhat extraordinary. His sword has the farthest reach in
the game (except projectiles, they can go almost anywhere) plus his
sword is taller than his opponents are, and he has the quickest recovery
time for Special Attacks, for most of them. So, if you want to have some
fun bashing and slaughtering beginners, if you are good, Cloud is one of
the people to choose. :)
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Since I know many people are misusing the Death Trap, I must ask you
guys to stop doing that! You shouldn't use it when playing against a
human opponent! Use it when playing against the CPU, not humans! It's
just to beat the CPU an easier way to get a high score. When you play
against a human opponent, it's VERY EASY to Counter or Blade Catch his
attacks, unless you're playing against a spazzer (the word "scrub" has
been excluded from usage). But you probably won't listen to me, anyway,
will you? If you don't, you'll lose! If you want to use it against a
human opponent, go ahead, and when you lose, well...too bad. You can't
justify I didn't tell you.
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Comparisons/Contrastings:
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Cloud and Sasuke are pretty similar. First of all, Cloud has
Climhazzard, while Sasuke has Cutting Rage. Those two moves are similar.
Cloud slices into the opponent's body, stunning them, then does a low
slash upwards to cause the opponent to fly into the air. With Sasuke,
the Cutting Rage, he also slices into the opponent's body to stun them
and then slashes them up into the air. That's a similarity. Also, with
throws. They both have suplexes and things like that. Also, they both
have a slide. And, of course, they both have a sword that can be lethal.
And they both have a sword attack when their Special Gauge is out. But
Sasuke is faster and has better juggles and moves. Sasuke and Cloud,
they have many similar attacks, Special or not. Cloud, he...isn't easy
to use if you don't know how to mix-up, juggle, counter attack, Counter,
Blade Catch, Flip Out, and all of those other basic moves. Sephiroth
has some pretty slow attacks, but his sword is very quick. I've played
Sephiroth a few times, and well...I tried to do some combos with him,
but he was too slow for me. I hear people boasting about Sephiroth, and
not just about his sword, and, well, he is pretty good with his physical
attacks, it's stronger, so that's why it's a little slower. Actually,
Sephiroth's physical attacks aren't really stronger, they are just
slower, don't stun as long, and some single attacks stun the opponent
really long, but are pretty weak. You can compare the Original Damage of
Cloud's attacks with Sephiroth's. You should see it. Most of their
attacks are the same strength, except for some attacks in the middle of
Basic Attacks. So really, Cloud is better with his physical attacks, but
Sephiroth is better with his sword attacks. Also, many people think
they're very good, and some of them really are, but a lot of them aren't
and can be beaten easily; I'm not one of the really good people, yet,
but it is a fact some people brag without their skills backing them up.
Actually, now that I've tested out Sephiroth, he is pretty good. He
IS easier to use than Cloud, but I still prefer to use Cloud over
Sephiroth. Anyway, Sephiroth has a manual rising uppercut, so it's
easier to execute instead of using a Just Frame attack for Cloud. But it
is also easier to counter. Sephiroth's only good launcher is the rising
uppercut, as for the knee, his recovery time is too slow so you can't do
as much as you could with Cloud. Sephiroth has some interesting moves
which are pretty useful. Anyway, expect a FAQ by me on Sephiroth in the
future sometime.
Sasuke has one very deadly juggle, but what your preference is, is
what your preference is. Sephiroth's sword attacks are very good and
quick, but I think some of them have a pretty slow recovery time, he
kind of retreats for some of his attacks, but that can be a good or
bad thing. Sure, Cloud is good, but of course, you have to know how to
use him well...like me! ^_^' The strategies for Cloud probably do not
apply to Sephiroth, since he doesn't have all of the moves Cloud has and
is also barely slower than him. How shameful... -_-'
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Part 6: Move Analysis
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In this section, I shall rate every move I know Cloud has. On a scale
of 1-10, the rating is the level of effectiveness. 10 being the most
useful, and 1 being almost useless.
Name and Input |Hit Level Rating
|Original Damage
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6.1 Basic Attacks:
Soldier Jab: H |H 8
|10
Good for starting mix-ups like HL, HHHH, HL*H, etc.
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Soldier High Low (rH): H, L |H, L 9
|10, 10
Good for some juggling to an extent. It's pretty quick.
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Soldier Chain: H, H, L |H, H, L 8
|10, 10, 15
Good for doing a Just Frame: HHL*HH
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Shinra Chain Disrupt: H, H, H, H |H, H, M, M 9
|10, 10, 10, 15
Good for juggling after launching the opponent. If you hit the
opponent with one of the hits, keep pushing H and it will count as a
combo, so your opponent can't block or anything, except Counter, unless
you miss with one of the attacks.
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Shinra Chain KxK: H, L, L, H |H, L, L, H 8
|10, 10, 12, 20
Somewhat better for juggling than the Shinra Chain Disrupt.
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Soldier Knee%: H+L |H 7
|10
Good for counter hits and launching.
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Soldier Elbow: H+L+S |M 7
|12
Slow start-up, but overall, pretty strong, good for juggling.
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Disrupt Shot: H+L+S, H |M, M 8
|12, 20
If you want to continue juggling after the first H+L+S, you have to
have a slight pause, then push H. Once the first hit connects, the other
hits always connect.
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Soldier Hook: H+S |M 8
|18
Useful for counter hits and beginning the launch.
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Shinra Chain Wheel: H+S, H, H |M, M, M 8
|18, 15, 25
Very good for launching.
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Shinra Genesis Chain: H+S, H, L |M, M, L 7
|18, 15, 20
Use as a mix-up to surprise your opponent.
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Soldier Low Kick (rH): L |L 7
|10
Can hit a semi-juggled opponent with this and do the second L. Good to
start mix-ups.
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Soldier Double Low: L, L |L, L 8
|10, 12
Good for semi-juggling.
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Soldier Original: L, L, H |L, L, H 8
|10, 12, 20
Good for juggling. The H can be widely delayed to surprise your
opponent.
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Shinra Needle: L+S |L 8
|12
You can do this while running, you can also do it for semi-juggling.
Also, you can do this when your opponent is on the ground as soon as
your opponent it getting up and you might hit him/her, it depends what
your opponent does.
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Soldier High Kick (wA): G+H |M 7
|12
Sometimes good for starting a juggle.
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Soldier Double High Kick^: G+H, H |M, M 8
|12, 15
Same as above, but after that, you can do the Just Frame attack:
G+H, H, *H.
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6.2 Executed Attacks:
Soldier Feint Right: QCF+H |M 5
|20
Good for psyching your opponent, for a few tries. You can also use it
to attack an opponent on the ground.
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Soldier Feint Left: QCB+H |M 5
|20
Same as above.
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Soldier Front Kick^: rising H |M 5
|16
To do this attack, you HAVE to push H when rising after certain Low
attacks since this is a rising attack, otherwise it won't work. To do
this manually, when your character is fully crouched, release G then
push H right afterwards. There has to be little delay time. You can use
this to psych out your opponent. This attack has a very quick start-up,
but somewhat slow recovery time.
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Moonsault%: H+L (overhead position) |UM 6
|20
A wonderful attack. If your opponent isn't running around crazily,
then this attack will hit them. You can also do it when your opponent
jumps to attack you.
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Low Spin Kick (wA): FC, L/G+L |L 6
|15
Just use it for the Just Frame attack, wiff this attack then do the
Just Frame.
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Mako Punch: Step, then L, H |M 7
|20
Charges forward and does a punch, you can sidestep then do it to
attack the opponent.
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Zack's Kick (rA): H (getting up) |M 3
|10
Quick spinning back kick when getting up. It usually knocks the
opponent down and is quick, but if missed, well, basically, you'll get
hurt.
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Kaiten Ashibarai^ (rA): L (getting up) |L 3
|10
It's just a Low Spin Kick, do it when you are getting up.
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Head Spring%: H+L (when getting up) |M 3
|10
**NOTE: Occurs when opponent is away from your feet when you are on the
ground.**
He flips up and can hit the opponent if they are close enough.
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Rotational Kick: H+L (when getting up) |L 3
|10
**NOTE: Occurs when your opponent is away from your head when you are on
the ground.**
He does a kick similar to a windmill (breakdancing technique).
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Soldier Flip^%: G+L+S |M 5
|23
Can be useful to end combos. You can just hold G and push L+S.
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Soldier Axe Kick^%: G+H+S |M 5
|15
Somewhat good attack. You can just hold G and push H+S.
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Jumping Turn (Side) Kick^&: Jump, H |M 8
|18
It's a jumping spinning back kick. Has good air advantage, use to
attack jumping opponents.
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Landing Shinra Needle^: Jump, almost land, H |L 6
|20
It's just the Shinra Needle. You just push H when Cloud is going to
almost land. It does knock the opponent down.
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Landing Low Spin Kick^: Jump, L |L 8
|15
Use this to jump over opponents and hit them when they're shocked.
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6.3 Executed Running Attacks:
Escape Back Kick%: Tap G, H |M 9
|20
It's quick, can't be Countered, and after the attack, Cloud backs up
plenty, so you can't be attacked easily, but you can be attacked while
attacking. You can also say "push H during a Fade-Away dodge."
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Air Slash%: H |H 1
|23
Slow and useless.
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Soldier Needle: G+H |M 9
|18
This attack has a lot of range, so use the full range so you cannot be
countered. It's a spinning back kick when running. If blocked: your
opponent can't counter attack easily; if not blocked and your opponent
is hit by it: they are knocked back far enough to not be able to hit
you.
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Slide Buster: L |L 2
|10
Good to get an extra hit on a grounded opponent. If blocked, your
opponent can counter for easy damage.
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Soldier Tackle%: H+L |M 2
|20
Like above.
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6.4 Just Frame Attacks:
Shinra Front: L, *H |L, M 7
|10, 16
Push last Just Frame H after you hear the collision sound, but don't
delay too much, or push the H after Cloud is done yelling.
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Cold Chain: H, L, *H |H, L, M 7
|10, 10, 16
Like Shinra Front.
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Zack's Chain: H, H, L, *H, H |H, H, L, M, M 8
|10, 10, 15, 20, 25
Like above. Can do quite a lot of damage.
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Shinra Chain Alpha: H+S, H, L, *H, H |M, M, L, M, M 8
|18, 15, 20, 20, 25
You push H after the L hits. Does more damage than the above.
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Shinra Chain Beta: G+H, H, *H |H, H, M 8
|12, 15, 25
You push the Just Frame H just as the first H hits your opponent, this
can be done blocking or not. Or you can say just as Cloud is done
yelling, push H.
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Zack's Shot: FC then L/(G)+L, *H, H |L, M, M 7
|15, 20, 25
Like Zack's Chain.
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Zack's Landing Shot^: Jump, L, *H, H |L, M, M 9
|15, 20, 25
Like Shinra Chain Alpha.
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Cross-Slash (Limit Level 1A): H+L, H, H, *H |UM, UM, UM 6
|15, 15, 20
You push the Just Frame H after you hear the collision sound from the
H before the Just Frame H.
**NOTE: You can only do Cross-Slash when the sword is unsheathed; for
Cross-Slash's Hit Level, it's only for Cross-Slash, not the first two
slashes of Sephiroth Combo Incomplete, otherwise it'd be UM x5.**
With several powerful slashes, Cloud causes massive damage to any
opponent. If the opponent survives the attack, he/she is temporarily
paralyzed. When you push H after the *, the Cross Slash sign appears and
he does Cross Slash (three hits) and does cause massive damage, and the
opponent is temporarily stunned (on the ground, that is).
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These Just Frame Attacks are useful, especially if you are able to get
the first hit(s) off on your opponent. Or you wiff the first attack(s)
then do the Just Frame attacks.
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6.5 Running Against Wall
Soldier Elbow Drop^%: H |UM 6
|20
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Triangle Slide Kick^%: L |UL 6
|15
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Soldier Flip 2^%: H+L |M 6
|20
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These Running Against Wall attacks are useful if your opponent is
tailing you.
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6.6 Executed Throws:
Crescent Suplex%: G+H+L (in front of opponent) 7
|N/A
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Crescent Dive%: G+H+L, hold L (in front of opponent) 7
|N/A
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Crescent Slash Dive^%: G+H+L, hold H (in front of opponent) 7
|N/A
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Waist Suplex%: G+H+L (left side of opponent) 7
|N/A
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Neck Fall%: G+H+L (right side of opponent) 7
|N/A
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Manhattan Suplex%: G+H+L (behind opponent) 7
|N/A
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Soldier Grasp^ (front): G+H+L, then: 8
- H, H, H: Face Punch x3, Stun (sometimes dizzies)
|10, 10, 14
- L, L, L: Hold Kick x3, Stun (sometimes dizzies)
|12, 12, 12
- Rope Throw: Push opponent in direction being held
You should push either HHH or LLL for a better chance of dizzying, if
you mix-up the HHH and LLL (like HLH or something like that), it usually
doesn't dizzy the opponent. The Rope Throw is useless, basically, it can
be broken out of relatively easily, and is only good if you are near a
wall to throw your opponent into.
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Soldier Takedown^%: When running, G+H+L, tap L/H rapidly 7
|10 each hit (including takedown)
H/L repeatedly (max. 3 hits), hits opponent's face, then Leg Toss; hold
H/L, Rolling Leg Toss; release all buttons, Leg Toss; Unblockable
The maximum hits during the Takedown is three. If you are not pushing
any buttons when you do the Takedown, you'll do the Rolling Leg Toss. If
you hold H or L, you'll do a roll-over.
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Omnislash (front): 360+G+H+L (sword sheathed) 7
since it usually hits as a combo: |7, 5, 4, 3, 3, 6, 5, 6, 5, 4, 30
The True Original Damage: |7, 7, 5, 4, 4, 8, 7, 8, 7, 5, 30
All of the slashes are Unblockable Middle attacks.
Cloud assaults his opponent with a long series of powerful sword
attacks. When this is used against an opponent, it is an extremely
powerful attack. If done in the correct area, this can nearly kill your
opponent even if they have a full power bar. This hits up to 15 times,
if you've never seen it, then you got to try it. It looks very cool.
Yes, that's right, 7. It can be Blade Catched. To do Omnislash in an
easier manner, hold G and rotate the joystick 270° very quickly then
push and hold H+L while still holding G; must be up close to your
opponent in order to execute. You should hold the buttons until Cloud,
or Zack, does Omnislash just to be safe. If you miss the Special Throw,
you know you did it right if your character stumbles and lunges forward.
Omnislash is also possible to break out of. No matter what, when
Omnislash is done on you, you have little chances of running away, even
if Cloud misses a few hits and you have the chance to move out of the
way, you still get followed and you shall most likely be hit by one of
the slashes of Omnislash. You'll have to resort to Blade Catches, but
you can only do it on certain slashes, such as the first slash, the
sixth slash, the eighth, the 10th, or something like that because
certain slashes make a combo. You can Counter it. Here's a little chart
what slashes of Omnislash you can Blade Catch (shown by a "Blade
Catch"):
Actually, you can Blade Catch all of the slashes, but only if the
slash before it misses, or it's the beginning of a combo.
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All of the throws here are rated 7, which means they're okay. There's
a chance your opponent can break out of the throw at some point(s). The
Soldier Grab is better, since it can dizzy your opponent to set them up
for a combo. And, of course, Omnislash is also very possible to get out
of, possibly even easier than a regular throw.
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6.7 Special Attacks:
Sword Stance: S (Draws Sword) |N/A N/A
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Sheath Sword^: G (Puts sword away) |N/A N/A
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Deathblow^: Jump, S |UM 6
|20
When you are executing this, the sword must be sheathed. This is very
useful. Use it wisely and it can be of great use to you. This can be
used to start the Death Trap. This can also be used to escape from your
opponent when you are in a corner.
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Braver (Limit Level 1A): H+L, G+H |UM 8
|20
Cloud performs a leaping chop that splits a single opponent in two.
This is usually your best Level 1 Limit Break. It's quick.
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Cross-Slash (Limit Level 1B): (see Just Frame attacks) 8
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Climhazzard (Limit Level 2B): G+H, H |UM, UM 7
|30, 20
You can only do this while you are moving. Cloud skewers a single
enemy and then hits the opponent high into the air to cause greater
damage. This is best used when your opponent's guard is down.
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Meteorain (Limit Level 3A)%: S (3 seconds) |N/A x3 6
|20, 20, 20
(as a combo: 20, 16, 15)
While leaping into the air, Cloud unleashes a barrage of meteors upon
the opponent causing up to three separate hits. This is actually best
used when your opponent cannot dodge this, or if they are running away.
Also good to fake out your opponent.
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Omnislash (Limit Level 4): (see Executed Throws) 7
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Shinra Single Slash: H |UM 6
|20
Useless, too easy to Blade Catch.
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Buster Sword Chain: H, H, H |UM, UM, UM 6
|20, 20, 20
Useless, too easy to Blade Catch.
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Shinra Low Slash: L |UL 7
|20
It's average.
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Skull Break: L, L, L |UL, UL, UL 7
|20, 20, 20
It's okay. I'd only use it when the opponent's guard is down or the
opponent doesn't know how to Blade Catch or Counter.
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Sephiroth Combo Incomplete: H+L, H, H, H |UM, UM, UM 6
|20, 20, 25
Be careful when you do this, H+L is the starter for Braver so he'll
rush forward then start the attack when you push H. The slashes in this
combo are really slices Sephiroth would do, and Cloud doesn't have a
Masamune, so he slices as if his sword were like a Masamune, except he
uses two hands and takes a lot of strength to execute. That is why the
real name of this attack is Sephiroth Combo Incomplete, while
Sephiroth's Sephiroth Combo is called Sephiroth Combo Complete. Useless
except when your opponent's guard is down, and you only do the first
two slashes then proceed to do Cross-Slash.
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Rune Blade Combo: H+L, L, L, L |UL, UL, UL 7
|20, 20, 20
Just a rush-in Skull Break.
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Butterfly Edge: G+H, H, H |UM, UM, UM 7
|20, 20, 25
Useless, too easy to Blade Catch, albeit it's quicker than most
other Sword Techniques.
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Clim Slash: G+H |UM 3
|30
Only good to start Climhazzard.
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Clim Mirage%: G+H, L |UL 3
|20
Almost useless, except to fake out your opponent once.
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Shinra Beta Slash: S |UM 3
|15
Push S when your Special Gauge is empty. All Cloud does is raise the
sword above his head, do some movements and slash. It's Clim Slash,
except weaker.
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6.8 Launchers:
Soldier Knee%: H+L |H 7
|10
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Shinra Chain Wheel: H+S, H, H |M, M, M 8
|18, 15, 25
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6.9 Combos:
#Different move
Terms:
none: no "special" circumstance
counter: must use as a counter hit
wall: _should_ use against wall
no wall: _shouldn't_ use against wall
N/A: can't do
# Lightweight Mediumweight Heavyweight Best Against...
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1 none none none All
2 no wall no wall no wall All
3 none none none Heavy
4 none none none Heavy
5 counter counter counter All
6 none none none All
7 none none none All
8 none none none Heavy
9 counter counter N/A All Available
10 none counter counter All
11 none counter counter All
12 none counter counter All
13 none counter counter Light
14 none wall counter All
15 none N/A N/A Light
16 none counter counter All
17 none counter counter Light
18 none counter counter Light
19 none counter counter Light
20 none none none All
21 none none none All
22 none none none Heavy
23 none none none All
24 none none none All
25 none none none All
26 none none none Heavy
27 none none none All
28 none none none All
29 none none none All
30 none none none All
31 none none none All
32 none none none All
33 none none none All
34 none none none All
35 none none none All
36 none none none All
37 none none none All
38 none none none All
39 none none none All
40 none none none All
41 none none none All
42 none none none All
43 none none none All
44 none none none All
45 none none none All
46 none none none All
47 wall wall none Heavy
48 wall wall none Heavy
49 wall wall none Heavy
50 wall wall none Heavy
51 wall wall none Heavy
52 wall wall none Heavy
53 wall wall none Heavy
54 wall wall none Heavy
55 wall wall none Heavy
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6.10 Special Combos:
Combo 1: Meteorain, slight pause, Skull Break 6
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Combo 2: Climhazzard, Deathblow 7
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Combo 3: Omnislash, when Cloud stops glowing red, Braver 7
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All of these Custom-Made Specials are okay because they are Specials
so they can't be blocked, but their weaknesses are the Blade Catch
and Counters, if possible. Of Combo 1, the weakness is Meteorain, it's
too hard to do that and actually hit your opponent to do the Skull Break
or Rune Blade Combo.
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6.11 Taunts
Impatience^: Direction+Start
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You may have noticed no attacks were rated 10, that's because any
person's attacks has one or more weaknesses.
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Part 7: Cloud VS. CPU & Person Guide
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I have no real strategies against humans, but...I'll include it here
somewhere. If you wanna see some real strategy, see Mike's Ehrgeiz
Expert FAQ...VERY in-depth, if it wasn't for his FAQ, I wouldn't be
practicing again! The first part about the Death Trap is for the CPU,
the second paragraph, if there is one, is little human strategy, as I
said earlier, READ the Expert FAQ, if you want to learn how to play
[better]! One general thing about humans is to prevent them from
throwing you, if they do throw you, try to break out.
VS Inoba:
Just do the Death Trap. (Do a Deathblow and keep doing the Skull Break
or Butterfly Edge repeatedly; I do it another way more efficient).
Watch out for his Special Throw and his mix-ups. He can do some major
damage. Some of his attacks are quick but may have a pretty slow
recovery time, so if you block them, you can attack right afterwards.
VS Jo:
Just trap her in a corner and do the Death Trap.
She's quick, so if she turns into a wolf, run+L or Jump, L. She has
some nasty mix-ups, juggles, and other stuff, so watch what you're
doing, otherwise you'll get hurt. Her Wolf-changing is an invincible
counter hit at the beginning of transformation.
VS Godhand:
Just start the match with a Slide Buster or a Soldier Tackle and do
the Death Trap. Better do it early or he'll run away. If he gets away,
just do a Moonsault, Meteorain, or jump down with a Deathblow and start
the Death Trap. He tends to shoot a lot.
He has the rising uppercut, so if he hits you with that, Flip Out as
early as possible, otherwise, he'll juggle you for some major pain. He
has many quality attacks. Watch out for his Rolling Set Mine, it's much
quicker than the regular Set Mine, and he rolls away from it, so he can
roll by you, set it, and blow it up when you are trying to hit him.
VS Shuwen:
Do the Death Trap. If he gets away, run and do Meteorain or follow him
and knock him down. Do the Death Trap afterwards.
Watch out for his spear. If he hits you with one of his attacks, try
Countering it. If you don't, he'll make you lose a lot of power. His
regular basic attacks suck, they're slow in many ways, but since they
are slow, he might be able to attack you when you are trying to counter.
VS Yoko:
Keep some distance and do a Deathblow. Do Sword Stance (Draw Sword)
and keep your distance until she gets up, she will most likely to a Get-
Up Attack (H), then start the Death Trap.
Her Yo-Yo sucks, so don't worry too much about it. She can do many
mix-ups to hurt you, then she can launch you and do a crazy juggle which
makes you lose over 40% of your power or so.
VS Naseem:
Keyword: Death Trap. If you stay in one place and turtle, he shall
throw you and do all sorts of combos on you. And if you run away, he
shoots that Special projectile of his.
He has too many good attacks at first, but some of his attacks are
almost useless, so he can trick you all day and cause you to lose lots
of power. He has extended links and stuff for his attacks, so either
block and counter in between, or...just Counter. Watch out for his
fireball. He can also juggle you for lots of loss of power.
VS Han:
Note: Death Trap. Same as Naseem, except Han's Special projectile is
much slower.
Also, his kicks are high, so, if he does some high attacks, get him
when he's recovering or in the middle of the attack(s).
VS Sasuke:
Now, this can be pretty hard. But do the Death Trap.
Alright, watch out for his jumping special, if he hits you with it,
it'll dizzy you then he could do some crazy attacks which makes you lose
too much power. Watch out for his HHH, HHL, HHHLH attacks, he can use
those to mix-up and attack..
VS Guardian (Cloud):
Death Trap? Yep, but he's somewhat HARD.
Anyway, just like Cloud, (duh!) he is Cloud, he has good juggles, mix-
ups, and other stuff. He can make you lose power, if the player is good
with him. But once he pulls his sword out, attack with a jumping L or
even H. If he does a Deathblow, then run away or run under him when he
is about halfway to the ground then attack him, or even juggle him. You
shouldn't worry too much about him.
VS Summoner (Tifa):
Heh. Hard. Try to do the Death Trap.
Well, here goes nothing: she is very good at her wake-up games, so if
she knocks you down, well, you can try the limited invincibility get-up
or try a quick flip-up get-up, not the attack, jump, or run! Her
running HHH is deadly, so...be careful, if she attacks you with it, Flip
Out as early as possible, if you block it, counter after the first or
second hit. She has many good juggles and mix-ups, so don't try to get
hit by one.
VS Django:
Easier than Cloud and Tifa. DO NOT try to a Death Trap. Django can't
even block, ha ha ha! Start with a Slide Buster or something else that
knocks him down and move back a little bit. Since you are not close
enough for Django to do the Knights of the Round Dive (when Django rolls
repeatedly in the air), then do a Sword Stance and knock him down with a
quick combo. Sheath Sword, move back a little bit, if he does a Knights
of the Round Dive attack, just take out Cloud's sword and attack him
with high attacks while he is in the air and Sheath Sword. Just keep
doing that pattern..
Here's another way to beat the CPU: Go in that corner in the bottom of
the place, after you go in, hold Guard and wait for Django to jump down.
Let go of G and push L infinitely. You'll hit him repeatedly with the
Soldier Double Low. If you knock him down with an attack and keep doing
the Soldier Double Low, you could juggle him for many hits.
VS Red Scorpion (AKA "?"):
EASY! Just break those two boxes containing those knives and throw
them at him. The easiest way to knock down the boxes is to do G+H+S.
Break the boxes by throwing (or hitting) them at him and throw the
knives at him. After you hit him with the knives, he dies, get all the
items (including Han's leg) and then get the Ehrgeiz that falls into the
center of the arena. See the ending and see the "After getting Ehrgeiz"
text and celebrate (maybe).
You can't really use Red Scorpion (known as "?") unless you use a
GameShark code in the PSX version. But if you do fight against someone
who does use a GameShark code, choose a stage with boxes, so you can
break them and throw the weapons at Red Scorpion.
PSX Characters:
VS Sephiroth:
Similar to Cloud, but Sephiroth's sword is much faster, but weaker,
and his physical attacks are stronger, but just a tiny wee-bit slower
for some of his attacks.
VS Vincent:
Same as Godhand, but some of his Vincent's attacks are shorter
or longer. Also, Vincent Jump, S is a shooting one, not a grenade like
Godhand's.
VS Yuffie:
Same as Sasuke, except Yuffie has a few different attacks, but she
still has the Smoke Bomb to dizzy you then damage you for a lot of
damage.
VS Koji:
Watch out for his S Throw, it's cheap, quick, and does a lot of
damage. If he does the Running Tackle in an attack (...L, H), the H
would be the Running Tackle, push G just before the Running Tackle hits,
like a Counter or Blade Catch. He has some ground attacks, but if you
are quick, it won't be much of a threat.
VS Clair:
I don't know much about her. But she has some good attacks, and she's
good at her wake-up games. Also, watch out for her Special, she can fake
you out with it if you try to jump to dodge it. If you do do that, she
can charge it and hit you when you come down.
VS Zack:
Same as Cloud.
VS Rio (Character Modifier GameShark Code):
Same as Django. Rio is a big dog/wolf that can be seen in the Arcade
version of Ehrgeiz. Just don't bother the game (or truly beat the game,
I forgot) after a while and you'll see Jo (wolf form) and this big dog,
Rio, chasing each other around in Naseem's stage.
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Part 8: Plot/Storyline
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Fifty years ago, a mysterious weapon constructed from an unknown
material was discovered in the remains of an ancient German castle. The
blade of the sword was broken, and a mysterious stone was set in its
handle. That mysterious stone was a "Materia." The weapon came to be
known as "Ehrgeiz" and became the name and symbol of a tournament, which
would decide the world's greatest fighter. The sword was presented to
the champion as a trophy.
Meanwhile, a secret excavation of a Middle Eastern desert ruin was
ordered by a particular organization called "Red Scorpion". It was
rumored the ruins contained the secret of immortality. As a front, Red
Scorpion claimed to be an international organization established to
protect international archaeological treasures and ruins. In reality,
it is a weapons manufacturer collaborating to develop bio-weapons. They
hope to rediscover and use the technology founded by hyper-ancient
cultures.
After months of excavating, Red Scorpion located the ancient ruins.
They located the final door to the ancient ruins but it couldn't be
opened. A special key was needed...Does the key still exist? If so,
where is it? The strongest theory points to a mysterious stone set in
the Ehrgeiz sword. On the same day the door was discovered, the Ehrgeiz
stone radiated an eerie glow and brilliance. Legend says those who come
in contact with the stone will be overwhelmed with a burning desire to
answer a mysterious calling.
Koji Masuda, the defending and consecutive three-time champion is the
current holder of the EHRGEIZ. Like a magnet, the sword navigates Koji
to the Middle East and eventually the ancient ruin. The Red Guardians
are not at all pleased by this intrusion onto their secret finding, one
of the Red Guardians is Sasuke. Disregarding the call of the sword, Koji
has no choice but to flee the Middle East. If caught, he would surely be
executed.
Koji realized the danger of the tournament and the sword. It's far
more than a mere symbol of fighting experience. Understanding the sword
brings danger to his life, Koji reluctantly decides to withdraw from the
tournament and relinquish his right to the sword. In a letter to his
daughter Yoko Kishibojin, Koji asks her to succeed his will and use her
martial arts skills to regain the sword.
The ambitious, hoping to finally unveil the mystery of the ancient
ruings, are set on obtaining Ehrgeiz in the championship tournament.
Anticipation rises as the aircraft informing the public about The
Ehrgeiz Championship Tuornament flies around the world. The exhilaration
of the participants slowly began to puse through the air.
Source: Dream Factory Home Page - http://www.drf.co.jp
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Part 9: Cloud Info
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I made this profile for Cloud myself. I got some information from
Final Fantasy VII. I made up some things and speculated a couple of
things like his age. Even if he is short, he's still cool. For the
Birthplace, I naturally put Nibelheim. And his Story, I made up many of
those things.
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Character Profile:
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Name Cloud Strife
Birthday August 19, 1976
Height 5'7"
Birthplace Nibelheim
Sex Male
Occupation Former 3rd Class Soldier, Former Mercenary, Unknown
Blood Type AB
Weapon Buster Sword (Zack's sword, originally)
Story:
Cloud Strife, along with his friends, once saved the life of the
planet. He moved back to Nibelheim with Tifa Lockheart, and got hitched
(it means married!), after saving the planet and thinks deeply about
what to do next. He wants to revive his dead friend, Zack, when he
hears rumors about the Ehrgeiz and the power of the mysterious Materia
in its handle. He himself enrolls in the tournament, along with Tifa, in
order to get the Ehrgeiz to bring back Zack from the dead.
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More Cloud Info:
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Cloud Strife is more fun to use than any of the other characters in
the game (at first it seems, but later, he becomes okay compared to many
of the other characters when played too much). His sword is taller than
his opponents are! The extended range of this giant weapon reaches above
and beyond everyone else's ability to successfully maneuver around it
(but people can Blade Catch and Counter his attacks, so...). For this
reason, it's good to draw the sword as little as possible; just remember
that Cloud's "Special" gauge will be continuously depleting while the
sword is drawn, even if you're not swinging it. Use his attacks wisely,
but don't try too many massive combos; Cloud's sword is powerful, but
it's also easy for the opponent to counter if used unwisely (only use
his sword when the opponent's back is turned).
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Part 10: Basic Stuff (Basic Moves available to all characters)
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Running:
Unlike the "dash" function of other popular fighting games, in Ehrgeiz
you actually run! Your character can run in eight different directions;
just hold in the direction you wish to run. This comes in handy for many
techniques and for safety reasons; you can hide behind boxes and various
objects on the screen, or you can use the run to initiate an offensive
attack. Also, you can run away from your opponent.
Walking:
Muhammad Ali, eat your heart out. One of the great things about
Walking is it allows you to evade and retaliate without running out of
control and possibly forcing you to miss. Also, you get more control
and less running. Another great thing about Walking is the CPU still
thinks you're running. Try this: Walk, when you see an opening, move
towards your opponent, Throw them. Instant takedown without running like
a chicken with it's head cut off. To Walk, hold G while moving and
you'll move while facing your opponent so you'll be able to block high
and mid attacks without staying in one place. There are some cool things
you can do while Walking. You can also initiate offensive attacks while
Walking.
Blocking:
Blocking in Ehrgeiz can be tricky. The basic technique is similar to
that of Tekken, in which your character blocks automatically when the
joystick is in a neutral position facing your opponent (blocks high and
mid attacks). You can also hold G while moving (not crouching) and your
character can block high and mid attacks. To block low, just hold Guard
while standing in one place to Crouch then you can block low attacks,
but you can't move. You cannot block Unblockable attacks.
Fully Crouch:
Unlike other fighting games, crouching is done in a different manner.
To crouch, you must hold G until your character crouches. This can be
used to do some offensive attacks or to block low attacks. After you
have crouched and you want to stand up again, just release G.
Jumping:
Tap joystick twice in direction you wish to jump or hold G and push S
(hold G+S to jump higher). Use jumps to surprise your opponent and/or
set up an offensive attack.
Throwing:
The argument will continue for generations - for all of the fighting
game players who think throws are "cheap," there's an equal number of
game designers who continue to include throwing as an integral element
of their games. Throwing is generally best used when your opponent is
"turtling;" i.e. standing around and waiting for you to attack so he or
she can counter. Simply press G+H+L to toss 'em into the action. There
are different variations of throws; each person has quite a few. You can
always hold G then push H and L to do a throw. There are different types
of throws.
- Regular Throw: G+H+L (can hold buttons, push buttons, hold direction,
do it from different body parts of opponent, etc.)
- Tackle: Running+G+H+L (push H/L for a max. of three hits, don't hold
anything for a Leg Toss, hold H/L for a Rolling Leg Toss)
- Special Throw: rotate joystick 360 degrees+G+H+L
To do a Special Throw a pretty easy way, hold G and rotate the
joystick 270° very quickly then push and hold H+L while still holding G.
There are two types of breakouts from throws:
- When being grabbed/thrown and you want to break out of it, push G
while your character is blinking white and you will break out (harder
than it sounds), you need the right timing to break out of it
- To prevent being tackled (running G+H+L), push G just before the
tackle hits your character (similar to Blade Catch and Interrupt)
Special Attacks:
Performing Special Attacks are easier than ever in Ehrgeiz; just press
the Special button! Unfortunately, you have a limited Special Gauge that
only allows you to use a certain number of attacks or for a certain
period of time. When your gauge is completely empty, there is a Special
Attack for each character that does something. These are usually
unblockable. All Specials SHOULD be unblockable. Some people just don't
understand there is a limited Special Gauge and when you use it all,
there is no more, unless you get a Special Item.
Launchers:
You can use launchers to setup difficult juggles. As with one other
type of fighting game, the VS series, you can launch your opponent in
the air, but in Ehrgeiz, there's no such thing as an Infinite, and it's
much more difficult to do a good juggle. Anyway, each character has a
few launchers. Usually, the basic M is one of their launchers, but some
characters have their basic M in a Basic Attack. So, there are usually
only two launchers per character, but that might be proven differently.
The first launcher is the basic M, the other one, you will have to find
it for yourself. The other launcher is usually better because the
opponent is launched higher in the air.
Rolling:
When on ground, just push direction you wish to roll. Or when
standing, hold G and push the direction twice in which you would like to
roll twice. Use the roll to avoid obvious ground attacks and Special
projectiles. Rolling also acts similar to a Rising attack, but it only
works for H and L for most characters if you push the button in the
middle of the roll. The character will do the attack as soon as they get
up. So, you can roll to set up an offensive attack.
Evade:
When running, tap G once and your character will turn become partially
transparent and a kind of lightning beam will surge through them and
spin around. This can also be done in the air (when you jump); it can be
used to advance your capabilities of movement in the air. Use this to
dodge projectiles coming towards you. You can tap G repeatedly to dodge
multiple projectiles. This can also be used to Evade any types of
Special attacks.
Step:
Once fully crouched, tap the direction you wish to step. You can
setup offensive attacks with this, or take a quick small retreat from
your opponent.
Rising Stuff:
I will still call this stuff "Getting Up Stuff" so it won't cause
confusion in the move list for rising attacks. The first four on the
list are not attacks, the last four ones are attacks, though. Here's the
Getting Up Stuff I know of so far:
- G: Rise in position with limited invincibility
- Direction+tapping G: moving Evade
- Direction: roll
- G+S (when on back): Jump Rise
- G+S (when on stomach): reverse Jump Rise
- L: rising low attack
- H: rising middle attack
- H+L (opponent away from head): Rotational Kick
- H+L (opponent away from feet): Head Spring
[See Recovery for something similar to Getting Up]
Recovery:
Use this to your advantage. As with one other fighting game (SFA3),
you can land safely when you are knocked into the air. Before you fall
to the ground, push G while airborne. Use this to surprise your opponent
and get in a quick hit before they can react. It also reduces damage
(slammed into the ground gives extra damage) and the chances of being
juggled when knocked high into the air. There are two types of
Recoveries:
- Before your character is slammed into the ground, push G: you will
Recover with limited invincibility
- Anytime in mid-air, push G and hold a direction: your character will
either Recover or roll in the direction you are holding, depending
when you push G and hold the direction
Counter (Interrupt in PSX version):
Push S right before impact of hit. You can only Counter physical
attacks. If you have an empty Special Gauge, you cannot do a Counter.
Counters take up some of your Special Gauge. Somehow, if you can
provoke your opponent into wasting their Special Gauge quickly, they
can't Counter and are forced to block your attacks if there is no
other way. Most ground attacks can be Countered, but airborne attacks
can't be Countered because, well, you can't hold someone's whole body
then attack them, unless you're very strong...but that's not how it is
in this game. You also can't Counter some very Low attacks.
Blade Catch:
Right before impact of hit with a sword, push G. Your character will
grab the sword with two hands and throw the person to the side. To break
out of a Blade Catch done on you, just Recover (push G before character
falls to ground. To do a Blade Catch, push G right before a sword hits
your character. This won't work if you tap G repeatedly.
Just Frame Attacks:
Just Frame attacks are attacks when you can push the button(s) at
certain frames of certain attacks to continue the combo. There's only
one time when you can push the button(s). And that's near the middle
frame of all of the frames of the attack (exp. L,*H, when the Low Kick
is all the way out, that's the middle frame because he still has to put
his leg back, then push H), push the button that goes along with the
Just Frame. Also, here's another way: when the attack hits your
opponent, after you hear the colliding sound from the hit, push the Just
Frame buttons. Just Frame Attacks don't require you to hit your
opponent: you can just wiff the attacks or push the button at the right
time, although, some Just Frame Attacks DO have to be done by wiffing or
hitting your opponent; you can tell if you have to hit your opponent if
the attack you have to do before you do the Just Frame button pushes is
blocked and your character is partially stunned, so you can't continue
the attack. These work for most characters. Despite what I believed,
Just Frame Attacks are Counterable, but it's very difficult to do so.
Taunt:
Some taunts are attacks (if an opponent runs into you while Taunting),
it depends if your character's Taunt has something that could hit your
opponent; to Taunt, hold the joystick in a direction and push Start.
Characters may have more than one taunt. Some characters have funny,
cool, or just plain odd taunts.
Special Objects:
Any advantage you are able to gain over your opponent - even a minor
one - can be magnified greatly in battle. Various stages in Ehrgeiz
contain power-ups that can advance your character's defense status and
attack status, refill some Energy and Special Gauge, give points, and
other various things; they can be found in the boxes that are scattered
throughout the game. Pushing the boxes at your opponent during the
course of a match can cause them to break and release objects that can
upgrade your fighting status. To break a box, simply use the Throw
command (G+H+L) when you are facing it. Your character will grab the box
and throw it at your opponent. Or you can hit it at your opponent with
an attack that hits low or middle. A box hit/thrown towards a character
is unblockable (must be thrown or hit; if you hit it, there must be
enough speed).
Special Weapons (Objects):
By request from Enpingy , I have included this
section that has to do with the Special Weapons you can pick up from
normal boxes. This may only seem as a little advantage when compared
with people's attacks. But, people may not notice it can be helpful if
used wisely. All of the Special Weapons are unblockable, use it wisely
to your advantage. As said earlier, "any advantage can be magnified
greatly in battle." You can pick up weapons, drop them, and throw them.
To pick up a Special Weapon, you must move into it. To drop the weapon,
push G. To throw them after you picked up a Weapon, push H or L. No
Special Techniques are known you can do with a Special Weapon. There are
a couple of weapons you can pick up; the current ones known are:
Sword It's a pretty strong weapon to throw.
Axe This may be a little stronger than the Sword. It's just an
axe that you can throw.
Dynamite Now, this Dynamite is an odd Special Weapon. It has an
unknown timer so you aren't really aware when it will blow
up unless you focus on it and see it blinking. So you
should use this with care. The timer is about as long as
Godhand's Time Bomb or whatever it is, if Godhand doesn't
push G.
Character Weight Classes:
Mike Allen told me what characters are in what classes. Light
characters rise high and descend pretty slowly. Medium characters rise
pretty high and descend at an average speed. Heavy characters rise lower
and descend quickly. Here they are (for PSX version):
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Light: Medium (female): Medium (male): Heavy:
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Yoko Claire Cloud Godhand
Jo Yuffie Han Inoba
Tifa Koji Django
Naseem
Sasuke
Sephiroth
Shuwen
Vincent
Zack
Battle Mechanics:
Okay, the battle mechanics of Ehrgeiz really isn't difficult to
understand. Each attack has its own damage, and everything from then on
is based on it. When an attack is used as a counter hit, you multiply
the original damage by one and one-fifth, and that's the new damage. You
also round up if there is no definite number for the damage. To know the
original damage of an attack that was used as a counter hit, you
multiply that damage by four-fifths. You also round down if there is no
definite number. If an attack is part of a combo, the second hit or
beyond that, you multiply the original damage of that attack by
four-fifths and that's the new damage. You also round down if there is
no definite number. To know the original damage of an attack that was
done in a combo, multiply the damage for that attack by one and
one-fourth. You also round up if there is no definitive number. To make
it easier to understand...
- counter hit: original damage multiplied by 1.2 (round up if not whole
number)
- combo (2nd hit or beyond): original damage multiplied by 0.8 (round
down if not whole number)
- original damage of attack used as a counter hit: new damage multiplied
by 0.8 (round down if not whole number)
- original damage of attack used in a combo: new damage multiplied by
1.25 (round up if not whole number)
The same rules apply to attacks done on your opponent when they are
jumping or rolling (damage deduction).
For some attacks, the damage reduction is one less than if it was
reduced for another attack. In other words, get the reduced damage, then
add one to that and you have the new damage.
Also, if you do an attack as a counter hit, it stuns the opponent
longer, and if it's a launcher, it launches them higher, and you already
know about the damage.
One more thing:
For some attacks that have a G, you could hold G then push the buttons
while still holding G. In the "Throwing" part of this section, it has
already been noted you can hold G then push the buttons.
For 360 degree moves, when you push the button(s), you have to hold it
until the move is done. Also, you don't have to rotate it 360 degrees,
only 270 degrees, like it is in other fighting games.
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Part 11: Secrets
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Secret Characters:
To fight against Cloud (AKA "Guardian"), simply defeat the first eight
opponents in less than 6' 40" 00 minutes, using no more than one
continue. If you manage to defeat Cloud, you will then face Tifa (AKA
"Summoner"). The BG music that is played when fighting Cloud is the
Final Fantasy VII Random Battle Theme Song. Tifa's is the Final Fantasy
Prelude Theme Song. To fight Red Scorpion(?), you must beat Django under
10'. You can also play as Cloud or Tifa if you're patient; both are
"time-released" characters that will simply appear as selectable
fighters at the character select screen after the machine has been
installed at your local arcade for a set period of time. Cloud will be
"released" as a selectable character first (30 days after installation),
followed by Tifa (60 days), then Django (90 days), a mysterious animal
that looks similar to Nanaki (Red XIII) or Seto, Nanaki's dad in Final
Fantasy VII; in fact, Cloud, Tifa, and Django are already available in
most locations by the time you read this. Other FFVII characters in the
PSX version of Ehrgeiz include, Sephiroth, Yuffie, Vincent, and Zack.
Koji Masuda (Yoko's dad) and his assistant, Clair Andrews, will also be
available.
Secret Taunts:
Some characters have secret taunts, and they aren't done by holding
a direction and pushing Start. The secret taunts are done by pushing
some button(s) during a Just Frame attack. (For example, instead of
pushing H for a Just Frame attack, you can try pushing L). I don't know
them, so you have to experiment yourself.
Move Character's Eyes:
During a victory pose, you can move your character's eyes. To move
your character's eyes, just hold the joystick in the direction you want
their eyes to move.
Alternate Costume:
To choose a character's alternate costume, hold up and push G.
Mess with character's running after victory pose:
After a character's victory pose, hold G. When your character runs to
the next stage, they'll do a fade-away dodge. This will only work once
per stage, if they run do run at all.
If you can help me with any secrets that are unknown or tell me
secrets not listed here, E-mail them to lbdangc@aol.com. Thank you.
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Part 12: After Getting Ehrgeiz... (with any character)
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You got Ehrgeiz!
You got a great sword with "Materia"
The mysterious stone never exists in this world
At last its eternal power is in your hands
You could be anything. Even god or...
All of the characters in the arcade version don't have endings, I
think, just this text, if you get Ehrgeiz.
The US Home Version:
You got Ehrgeiz!
You got a great sword with "Materia"
The mysterious stone radiates an eerie glow
At last its eternal power is in your hands
You could be anything. Even a god or...
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Part 13: Frequently Asked Questions
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How do you jump?
This question was a side question of the question below this one. To
answer this dumb question...read the BASICs Section! Learn! Didn't you
read that this FAQ is for the Arcade Version of Ehrgeiz!? It says it in
the beginning, it's also listed as (ARC) which means Arcade. It doesn't
have the PSX buttons, but those are still the correct buttons! There's a
thing actually called "reading." Use that ability!
Cloud can't jump or can he?
This is even funnier than the one below this question! Heh heh heh.
Hey, stupid! He can jump! Everyone (humans and animals) can jump in this
game! You're supposed to test out the stuff before asking a damn
question like that! Didn't you read the Basics before you played this
game!? Logic, use LOGIC!
How do you know when you build your Limit?
What!? This is funny! There is no such thing as Limit Break building
in this game. If somewhere in the Move List it says "(Limit Level xx),"
it's just there to show you it's a Limit Break from Final Fantasy VII.
If there was a Limit Break meter, don't you think they would show it?
Have some common sense, you damn people who would ask a question like
that! Besides, you should try doing the attack a couple of times before
asking stupid questions like that!
How do you do a Just Frame Attack?
Okay, here goes, near the middle frame of all of the frames of the
attack (exp. L,*H, when the Low Kick is all the way out, that's the
middle frame because he still has to put his leg back, then push H),
push the button that goes along with the Just Frame. Also, here's
another way: when the attack hits your opponent, after you hear the
colliding sound from the hit, push the Just Frame buttons. Also, for
some Just Frame attacks, you push the Just Frame button after the
character is done yelling, but some require you to push it before or
right as it ends. This is the case for most characters.
How do you do the Blade Catch?
Push G right before a sword hits your character. Sound easy?
I DON'T THINK SO! ¦P Well, actually it is easy, after some practice.
How do you crouch?
Hold G until you crouch.
Why can't I block Cloud's sword attacks?
You can't block his sword attacks because it is a Special, you can do
Blade Catchs and Counters, though, but not block.
How do you do Cross-Slash and Omnislash?
Cross-Slash: H+L, H, H, *H; Omnislash: 360 degree spin+hold G+H+L
(sword sheathed). To do Omnislash easily (or a Special Throw for any
character), hold G and rotate the joystick counterclockwise 360 degrees
and then push and hold H+L while still holding G. You will be facing
your opponent, but you, of course, have to be close to throw your
opponent.
How do you beat that red guy after you beat the game and what's his name?
His name should be/is possibly "Red Scorpion" and to beat him, just
break those 2 boxes containing the knives and throw them at him. To
knock down the boxes easily, do an airborne attack, but if you don't
knock the box down but you are still in the air, then run against the
box until it is knocked down. Then throw the boxes at your Red Scorpion.
Throw the knives at him and he will start fading way, then items will
pop out of his disappeared body, you must get all of the items, then the
Ehrgeiz will fall down into the center of the ring. You must get it to
see the person's ending. I only beat the game with Cloud, so I saw his
ending.
How do you jump when the sword is unsheathed?
You can't. So to do a Deathblow (or a combo that has it), the sword
must be sheathed and then jump and push S. Cloud will then turn red and
do a Deathblow. I received information from Enpingy
saying that some people might ask that question because they'd like to
do an attack while the sword is sheathed that jumps. Well, you can do a
Braver, although you must keep some distance so you can charge forward
without risking the chance of getting hit.
How do you pronounce "Ehrgeiz?"
You pronounce it (e:r gaits), "air-gaits." It's a German word. And it
means ambition. Source: Dream Factory
What is the plot/storyline of Ehrgeiz?
Check out the storyline section.
What's your highest score?
My highest score? It's 96, 760 (1st Place!). And my time was 5' 31" 92
and that was 1st place. I've combo'ed an opponent for 12 hits! I fought
Cloud and Tifa a lot of times, beat them each time. I'm up for a good
challenge, if anyone wants to challenge me, go to the Regency Family Fun
Center at Pixie and Carson in Lakewood, California. There's an Ehrgeiz
there. Just E-mail me before you do and set up a time with me. My
initials are "DAN" for the hi-score list or whatever. If you live in the
area, check it out sometime. Tell me your highest scores, what character
you used, and your time, and don't lie! I can probably tell when you're
lying or not.
Are you going to make anymore FAQs for other characters?
Right now, I'm working on Vincent, then Koji. I won't make a FAQ on
Yuffie because I don't know her moves and move names.
How do you do those Special Combos?
Alright, here's the process: just do the hits it says. If there's
a move that requires you to have the sword out, then take it out, if
it doesn't require you to do that, then don't. After Omnislash, the
sword automatically stays out, unless your Special Gauge is empty.
Are there any endings for anyone?
Yes, there is. To get it, you have to beat the game. Then fight that
red guy, "Red Scorpion" but some people call him "Armored Django", well
whatever the name is, you have to kill it. Just break those 2 boxes
containing the knives on those altar-like things, and throw them at him.
Then he will disappear and stars and coins will pop out of his now-gone
body, you must collect them all. Afterwards, the Ehrgeiz will fall down
into the center of the arena. There is no ending in the arcade version
for anyone, I think.
Have you ever lost a match against a human player?
Yes, I have. My current record is 32-32, the 32 losses are against
Mike and Dave, but for all of the matches (except six or seven), I
always won at least two rounds. It's even, 32 wins and 32 losses.
How do you do that thing when Cloud turns blue and sticks his hands out
like he is trying to cast a magic spell like in Final Fantasy VII?
It's nothing. It's just a regular punch that looks like a two-hand
punch.
What is "Just Frame"?
I'm not sure, but I always thought "Just Frame" was in reference to
the detail that the "Just Frame Combos" had only a few frames where you
had to press the button to continue the combo. Unlike the regular
combos where you could press the button in a relatively wide time
period, some of the "Just Frame" moves really were just a few frames.
Here's an example:
Zack's Chain: H, H, L, *H, H
Do the H, H, L combo just by pushing it, then pause for a certain
amount of time, then push H, H which is after the *. You push the first
attack of whatever is after the * at the middle frame of the attack
before the *, in other words, if you hit your opponent, after the
hitting sound, push it, don't try to time it, just push it after you
hear the sound. But if you wiff the attacks, then push it at its middle
frame.
You know if you did it correctly if there is blue sparkling stuff
coming out.
What does "Just Frame" mean?
Well, I don't know the exact answer, but see above. I guess you could
call it a "certain frame" or something like that.
Have any questions or if you can help me answer any questions that need
confirmation, then E-mail them to lbdangc@aol.com
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Part 14: Remarks I've received for beating the CPU or people with Cloud
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"You're mean. Do you always have to trap 'em in the corner?"
What? That's part of my strategy. If you can't get out, too bad. The
guy whom challenged me just SUCKS. He only hit me twice in the first
round and once in the second. He claims that I trapped him in the
corner, but I didn't. He was running towards the corner, I just finished
the task for him to be in the corner when he was very close. So I did
the Death Trap.
It's not part of my strategy anymore, though. But that guy was a major
spazzer, so I thought, why not just kill him easily?
"You can't beat me again! I have a secret weapon now!"
It was the same guy I beat above, unfortunately, he was unable to
challenge me again because he had to go home. What secret weapon could
he be thinking of? Anyone help me figure it out? I think it's just
pushing S, wow, or Blade Catch, or something stupid he can't do very
well. It doesn't matter anyway.
"Dayam!!! You whooped my ass!"
Okay.
"Man! You suck! You can't do Omnislash! I wasted my money on you!"
Well, let me explain. What happened was I was trying to do Omnislash
against the computer, but was unsuccessful. So...someone I know
challenged me, but instead of fighting, he told me to do Omnislash. So,
after two rounds, I still couldn't do it. But now I know how to do a
Special Throw (Omnislash for Cloud). Then he said the quote above.
Hehehe :)
"Aww, man...I lost..."
Yep, that's right.
"Man! You're good!"
Yea, practice can help you get better. But he should see me now...
"How did you get so good!?"
Ohh...I practiced. I think I'm an intermediate Ehrgeiz player, if not
lower. Of course not the best, but a pretty good one.
Well, back then, I was crappy, but now, yes, now, I'm getting even
better, I'll practice for oh so long, I'll keep practicing until I can
do things with little thought.
Nice match...heh.
"Damn! I lost!"
Too bad. That's what that guy deserved for turtling TOO much.
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Part 15: My Best Stuff
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My best Arcade Hi-Score, Time, and Consecutive Wins
Hi-Score 96, 760
Best Time 5' 31" 92
Best Consecutive Wins 21 (no one else started challenging)
Character Used Cloud
(I could probably get a better score with Sasuke, since he's much easier
to use, but not the same time record as I did with Cloud.) I've noticed
one thing, in the arcade version of Ehrgeiz, when you fight Red
Scorpion, how much time you spend before getting the Ehrgeiz is added on
to your time record, but in the PSX version, it isn't logged on to your
record. Also, in the PSX version, you always spend how much the time
limit per round is on Red Scorpion, but it doesn't matter, since the
time isn't logged on to your record.
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Part 16: Special Thanks
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Mike Allen (mallen@csubak.edu):
Letting me play against him and his friend Dave in Ehrgeiz. It was
lots of fun. Told me many useful things other than corrections. He's
helped me a lot. He's told me two combos (Combo 43 and Special Combo 3).
Corrected me on many things: Special Throw, HLLH and LLH moves, G+HH and
G+H moves, Windmill move, and corrected my misleading text in the
"Strategy" section, and the "Character Weight Classes,"; suggested a lot
of stuff (like where to put stuff), also told me some of his opinions;
strategy ideas coming from him and his Expert FAQ; "Secret Taunts;" see
his Expert FAQ which contains strategies and other very good stuff the
Ehrgeiz player is looking for to succeed.
Square (www.square.co.jp):
Owning SquareSoft and part of Dream Factory.
SquareSoft (www.squaresoft.com):
Licensing the game
Dream Factory (www.drf.co.jp):
Making this game
Namco (www.namco.com):
Publishing this game in arcades
Kao Megura:
I got some ideas for things from his FAQs (Copyright Disclaimer and
Legend)
Jason Wilson:
"General Details about Ehrgeiz" (first paragraph), "Secret
Characters," "Running," "Blocking," "Jumping," "Throwing," "Rolling,"
"Special Attacks," "Special Objects," "Alternate Costume," and "More
Cloud Info."
Shinomori Aoshi :
"Rope-A-Dope" and two combos (Combo 1 and 5)
Ilja J. Sillman AKA faust :
I got the VS Guide, Move Analysis and Strategy idea from him after I
saw his FAQ, besides, he got some stuff from me, so, I decided I had the
right to copy him. You should see his Sasuke Character Guide.
Enpingy :
Requesting "Special Weapons (Objects)" and said that you can do Braver
to answer part of that question, "How do you jump when the sword is
unsheathed?" Also, the names of some moves.
Billy Bissette :
Answering the question "What is 'Just Frame'?"
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Part 17: Author Information
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Name: Dan GC
E-mail: LB Dan GC@aol.com
Web page: None
still in the process of creation
ICQ: None
"You're funny. But keep it up and you'll just piss me off." ~ Xenogears'
Fei
Don't plagiarize! It's bad! And always give credit where it is due!
Some NEWS:
Well, on Saturday, May 8, 1999, I played against Mike and his friend,
Dave. I stayed for over three hours. When I first played against them, I
was getting the feel of the game, and trying to learn their strategy, so
it took me a while to do that. I used Cloud and Sasuke the most, while
they used everyone, except for Django. I got a few EXCELLENTs and
PERFECTs against the both of them, but they got some, too. Actually, I
only got two PERFECTs on Mike, as for the rest, there were done on Dave.
But I got more on them than they did on me. For most of the matches
where I didn't win and only won one or two rounds, I usually annihilated
them, I truly mean it. When I went up against Dave's Koji, I beat him
two rounds easily, then he beat me the next three rounds, then I beat
him the next round. For the fourth round, we were at the end of our
power, well, at least he was, I made a mistkae then he pushed S and got
me in Koji's Special. I broke out after the four punches (I had no power
left!), then I killed him. For the last three matches I had against
Mike, he beat me in all of them. I beat him one round for the last match
(he had Tifa), I did win one round against his Koji (second to last
match), and for the third to last match, he used Sephiroth, he also beat
me in that one. But I almost beat him (power-wise, not rounds-wise). I
also won one round when he used Sephiroth. Mike whooped my ass!
I never threw once when playing against Mike and Dave, I hardly used
wake-up (rising) attacks), and only used Sephiroth's sword once, the
same thing for Cloud. I just attacked and stuff, I tried to do a Special
Throw with Cloud, it came out both times when I did it, but it didn't
connect.
Mike's a really nice person, he complimented me when I did something
good and whatever. Whenever I did do do something good on Dave and Mike
complimented me, Dave would say, "Commentary, Mike." I think it means
commentary means "series of comments." So Dave was basically saying, in
my point of view, "You're making too many comments, Mike." Dave would
usually say that whenever I dizzied him with Sasuke's Smoke Bomb (Jump,
S) and Mike would say something. I used a lot of juggles with both Cloud
and Sasuke. I saw Dave try to do Cloud's H+L, LLH juggle a couple of
times on me since he saw me do it a few times and it always connected,
but when he did it, it never connected.
Mike also put pillows under my head when I first layed down on one of
the beds in the room. My back was hurting from sitting up (I was playing
against Dave the time it started to hurt), so I lay back to relieve some
of the pain, but I could barely see, so then he said, "A pillow, Dan?"
then he put a pillow under my head without me answering, but I would've
said yes anyway. Then a few seconds later, he put more pillows so I
could see better, and it helped.
We played a lot of matches, like 32 or something, I don't really know
the true count, but that's basically it. I beat Mike in one match, and
I don't really remember who he or I used. I beat Dave like three times.
Mike beat me about 20 times. That's all for now. If I ever get to play
against Mike (and his friends) sometime much later in the future, I'll
be ready and be much better than I was when I played him. I need to
throw and do rising attacks more, but I don't mind. I'll work on those
some day.
I've been thinking of what should and should not be in Ehrgeiz 2. In
the Expert FAQ, there is already stuff they already don't and do want
in part two of Ehrgeiz. Well, I have some of their stuff, but I do have
extra stuff I'd like, too... I hope this stuff does appear in Ehrgeiz 2.
If Dream Factory reads the following stuff...then, it could be a good or
bad thing...
- No Interrupts
- No Partial Invincibility when getting up
- If there is a Quest Mode, make it like the real game, and everyone
would have separate stories, they could use the DVD Disc to put all
that info on one disc; also, some people could be partners, or even
more than just one or two persons, they could make it just like Tobal
No. 1 and 2 except make it even better
- More Mini-Games
- More Characters (keep everyone in Ehrgeiz and add more characters)
- If they had to have Interrupts, then make it something like this:
it would depend on how much Special Gauge you and your opponent have,
how much HP you and your opponent have, what attack(s) your opponent
is doing, and other stuff. The more Special Gauge your opponent has,
the less likely the Interrupt is to work against your opponent; the
same would apply if you had a low Special Gauge. Also, depending on
what attack(s), you may or may not be able to Interrupt it, but
instead, you would have something that could Interrupt at times if an
Interrupt could not be done even though it was done correctly, the
replacement would be an Interrupt Block, in other words, just a normal
blocking of the attack, but sometimes the Interrupt Block would also
not work. Also, if the Interrupt or Interrupt Block wouldn't work, you
would get hit by the attack(s), but damage would be reduced by half
from that one attack. Call that the..."Half Damage" or something like
that. So far, there would be an "Interrupt," "Interrupt Block," and
"Half Damage." That's quite some good stuff. If you had low energy or
your opponent had more energy, it would be less likely for the
Interrupt to work. There would be many factors determining if an
Interrupt, Interrupt Block, or Half Damage would occur. The above also
applies to Blade Catches, except there is only Blade Catch or Half
Damage for that.
- And some other stuff; I really think the above is really good and
would make Ehrgeiz 2 even better
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Unpublished Work Copyright (c) 1998, 1999 Dan GC
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